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Mar 26, '12, 5:09 pm

PJM Senior Member   Join Date: August 31, 2008 Posts: 8,507 Religion: Informed, practicing RomanCatholic

What might we know [Biblically] but not know? As a life long Catholic I regullary encounter unbelief in this or that from the bible. Ocassionaly from catholics and with GREAT regularty from other Christians. What teachings of Christ can be self-determined? PLEASE be specifc and give a reason for your position. And what teachings of Christ "don't mean what they say/" And WHY not? God Bless, Pat __________________ PJM http://working4christ2.wordpress.com Can we partake of God's GLORY and NOT partake of His PASSION? NO! A.B. Fulton Sheen: "The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and a lie is still a lie, even if everybody believes it."

#2   Mar 26, '12, 7:50 pm

bscastro Prayer Warrior   Join Date: February 28, 2006 Posts: 707 Religion: Catholic

Re: What might we know [Biblically] but not know? Sorry I'm not directly answering the question. Just wanted to say that I just try to obey the Church that Jesus Christ gave us. I know I usually screw things up when I put my own mind to it, so I say yes to Jesus and to His Church - the Catholic Church. Not an apologetically mature position, but it works for me. This is not to say that scriptural knowledge and apologetics is not important, but I have the starting point that the Church is right, and then work from there, while others work from the premise that the Church is wrong and needs to defend its position. God bless, Bryan __________________ The Lord is kind and merciful. I believe one of God's most under-appreciated gifts to us is the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

#3   Mar 26, '12, 7:53 pm

CopticChristian Regular Member   Join Date: July 26, 2011 Posts: 7,762 Religion: Catholic

Re: What might we know [Biblically] but not know? Quote: Originally Posted by PJM As a life long Catholic I regullary encounter unbelief in this or that from the bible. Ocassionaly from catholics and with GREAT regularty from other Christians. What teachings of Christ can be self-determined? PLEASE be specifc and give a reason for your position. And what teachings of Christ "don't mean what they say/" And WHY not? God Bless, Pat I believe that the Protestant mind would do summersaults over this. My mind has no answer other than teachings of the Church are based on Scripture/Tradition/ as interpreted by the Magesterium. So whatever I have concerning questions about the Bible would cause me to see what the Church says and relieve my anxiety about my beliefs. Protestants I would imagine may have difficulty with this.

#4   Mar 27, '12, 9:41 am

rinnie Veteran Member Prayer Warrior   Join Date: September 17, 2007 Posts: 10,991 Religion: Roman Catholic

Re: What might we know [Biblically] but not know? Quote: Originally Posted by PJM As a life long Catholic I regullary encounter unbelief in this or that from the bible. Ocassionaly from catholics and with GREAT regularty from other Christians. What teachings of Christ can be self-determined? PLEASE be specifc and give a reason for your position. And what teachings of Christ "don't mean what they say/" And WHY not? God Bless, Pat Well okay the teaching let no man call you Father. Jesus did not mean to not call any man Father. He was correcting Men who were taking the truth and twisting it for themself. He meant what he was saying as far as his correction. But many Protestants take that a face value. And say Jesus said let no man call you Father, he said it, but did not mean not to call any man your Father.

#5   Mar 27, '12, 9:42 am

rinnie Veteran Member Prayer Warrior   Join Date: September 17, 2007 Posts: 10,991 Religion: Roman Catholic

Re: What might we know [Biblically] but not know? Self determined. The Church and I are One. He meant what he said, and it true.

#6   Mar 28, '12, 10:02 pm

shangbuqi Trial Membership   Join Date: March 28, 2012 Posts: 4 Religion: Protestant

Re: What might we know [Biblically] but not know? This is not to say that scriptural knowledge and apologetics is not important, but I have the starting point that the Church is right, and then work from there, while others work from the premise that the Church is wrong and needs to defend its position.

#7   Mar 29, '12, 3:52 am

edcvfr Banned   Join Date: March 29, 2012 Posts: 6 Religion: Catholic

Re: What might we know [Biblically] but not know? So whatever I have concerning questions about the Bible would cause me to see what the Church says and relieve my anxiety about my beliefs.

#8   Mar 29, '12, 8:57 am

PJM Senior Member   Join Date: August 31, 2008 Posts: 8,507 Religion: Informed, practicing RomanCatholic

Re: What might we know [Biblically] but not know? Quote: =edcvfr;9120659]So whatever I have concerning questions about the Bible would cause me to see what the Church says and relieve my anxiety about my beliefs. My friend, If you'd care to be more specif I'll resond to what issues concern you, God bless you, Pat __________________ PJM